4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

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4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

Postby JERICHO » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:16 pm

In May 1940, the Border Regiment, was in the Somme in the west north west of Amiens, south of the Somme river to block the German advance and thereby prevent cross the canal.

Men of the 4th Border Regiment travel in the back of a lorry, May 1940
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4th Battalion Border Regiment on the Somme Front, May 1940- A requisitioned lorry carries men of the 4th Battalion, Border Regiment on patrol
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Now in 2012
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this is a guess, but this picture may be the next
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Re: 4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

Postby JERICHO » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:50 pm

in my opinion I think these photos are the result of previous

4th Battalion Border Regiment on the Somme Front May 1940 Soldiers of the 4th Battalion, Border Regiment take up defensive positions by the roadside
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BORDER / QUEENS BAY IN SOMME BATTLE
"On 24 May Major Asquith, commanding 'C' Squadron, was ordered to seize the bridges at Dreuil, Ailly and Picquigny, using three troops, with the 4th Borders and 'B' Squadron in support. On the right Lieutenant Viscount Erleigh of 2 Troop, with only two Mark VIC tanks, advanced on Dreuil, and when a mile from the objective, his leading tank was fired at by an anti-tank gun. Returning the fire, the tank spun round and withdrew. A machine gun then opened up on Erleigh's tank from a water tower. It was silenced for a time with fire from the Besa, but it soon reopened on the Border infantry, who suffered casualties. Small arms fire then started from various directions, with a fire fight ensuing, but no progress could be made against the dug in Germans. Erleigh's two tanks then attempted an outflanking movement. Sergeant Bunn on the left met no opposition; the Border infantry in the centre were involved in a melee with bayonets, rifles and machine guns; Erleigh on the right was blocked by a wood. The two tanks withdrew when they heard that a cruiser troop was coming up, but it failed to arrive at 1 p.m. 2 Troop, out of ammunition and petrol, was ordered back into reserve. For this action Viscount Erleigh was awarded the Military Cross.
In the Centre, 3 Troop with TSM Ayling found the bridge at Ailly destroyed, but two platoons of the Borders managed to cross and , covered buy fire from the tanks, engage the enemy. Eventually they had to withdraw under increasing pressure, but gave the tanks more targets as they came back. Ayling was awarded the Military Cross.
On the left, Lieutenant Gavin's 4 Troop made for the bridge at Picquigny, meeting a French officer who told them that the Germans were in great strength. The Border Company who had taken another route ran into an ambush in a wood, taking many casualties and having their lorries set on fire. Gavin went to their aid, engaging parties of enemy infantry, driving them out of the wood and coming under heavy anti-tank and machine gun fire for Picquigny. He took up a position to cover the Border survivors, as about fifteen wounded straggled back during the day, to be evacuated in French ambulances. At 8 p.m. Gavin withdrew, taking thirty more Border survivors back on his tanks, with nine others making their way on foot.
Major Asquith with squadron headquarters had followed Erleigh's and Gavin's troops, engaging some German infantry near Picquigny. Lieutenant Nicholson's Cruiser Troop form 'B' Squadron, with only two runners, was under command, and Asquith sent him to Erleigh's support. When Nicholson arrived, one tank having broken down en route, Erleigh had withdrawn, so Nicholson also retired, hitting a mine and coming under anti-tank fire, but without sustaining any serious damage"
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Re: 4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

Postby ngledcarlton123 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:46 am

Nice to see these pics of the 4th Border Regiment - do you have any others of them, I'm longingly looking for any pictures which might show my grandfather Sergeant Percy Joseph Bell. He was injured at Fecamp on June 10 1940, after a time in hospital in Rouen ended up eventually in Stalag VIIIB till the long march.
Many thanks for the epics.
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Re: 4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

Postby JERICHO » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:38 pm

Hi,
I think this photo was taken with the previous but I do not know the source
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Morris-Commercial CS8 15cwt truck of 4th Border Regiment in the Somme sector, 14 May 1940.
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4th Battalion Border Regiment on the Somme Front, May 1940 A soldier of the 4th Battalion, Border Regiment stands by his requisitioned and well camouflaged lorry
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Re: 4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

Postby JERICHO » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:16 pm

To help you visualize the scene with aerial pictures from1946

DREUIL LES AMIENS near Amiens (suburbs)
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AILLY SUR SOMME on the west of Dreuil
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PICQUIGNY on the west of Ailly
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Re: 4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

Postby JERICHO » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:29 am

Hello all,

please find the picture of DREUIL LES AMIENS bridge

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AILLY SUR SOMME bridge
the first
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the second
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PICQUIGNY bridge
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Re: 4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

Postby JERICHO » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:53 am

Find the picture of the wargraves of Private JW MACK'ERETH and Private J.CHARLTON at FOURDRINOY

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http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead ... %20WILLIAM
http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead ... ,%20JOSEPH
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Re: 4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

Postby kerchi » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:22 pm

It's interesting to see the 'then' and 'now' photos of the 4th Border men in the lorries and the road and buildings as they are today. You can easily see what has changed and what is still the same.

What is the source of the aerial photos you have posted?
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Re: 4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

Postby JERICHO » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:07 pm

the aerial photos are from a French site "Geoportal". They were made in 1946 and me to have them retouched

http://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/accueil

must use the back in time "REMONTER LE TEMPS" at the top right

it is very difficult to find some places now because there are very few details on some vintage photos
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Re: 4TH BORDER REGIMENT IN SOMME 1940

Postby kerchi » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:40 pm

Geoportal was suggested as a useful mapping website by Spike, who has used it before for his projects. I have looked briefly before now but need to get google to translate it for me as I don't read French too well and navigation is difficult. It's a shame the english version has been removed.

The photos that I looked at had high enough resolution when zooming in for more detail, enough to get a clear street view. It would also have been even better if there were some WWI photos.

In your introductory post you mention about living near Incheville and Picquigny where Border Regiment fought during the Second World War. What research have you compiled?

Paul also mentioned about seeing some present day photos of the Incheville. Do you have any?
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