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Re: Fallen on the Somme; The War Diary of 2nd Lt Harold Hard

Postby kerchi » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:08 am

Scottie,Wish I could have been there with you to pay my respects too :( How was it the trip? Anyway, thanks a million for posting the pictures here :) Can I use the photos on the wiki site for Lizell's page?Chris
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Re: Fallen on the Somme; The War Diary of 2nd Lt Harold Hard

Postby CockneyTone » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:27 am

Chris,would be pleased if you used the pictures elsewhere, no problem. We had a fantastic trip, two days of constant sunshine, however a freezing wind that simply cut you in half! But we were well wrapped up so kept trhe chill at bay!We got to the Somme late morning, the B & B (can I post details?) let us book in early and welcomed us with a splendid cup of tea, we then went straight out for a walk around Flers then up to Guedercourt, I needed to do a recce on that area for a possible trip later in the year that I may be guiding! We were concentrating on the Tank attack of the 15Th September 1916. As we started our stroll we stood next to the French Memorial my mate saw he was standing on two live 303 bullets that had been turned up by the recent ploughing, a couple of yards away we saw a shell nose cone! The next day after a splendid 'full English' breakie we walked down the footpaths to the NZ memorial then onto Deville Wood and back up to Flers! We found a monster dud shell during that walk, I will post a picture if you are interested.You mentioned earlier the cost of a trip, well if you plan well and have access to a car (Not sure that you have?) it works out quite reasonably, we went via the Tunnel, took loads of grub with us and a couple of small gaz stoves for a brew up as we walked, the whole trip came to £440 for the four of us, so £110 each, that included insurances, breakdown cover, motorway tolls grub, B & B, evening meal with wine etc! We could have knocked £40 off if we took a ferry i/l of the Tunnel but we wanted more time on the Somme! So it can be done more reasonably, obviously adding more days to it increases the sum accordingly!Regards,
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Re: Fallen on the Somme; The War Diary of 2nd Lt Harold Hard

Postby spike » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:30 am

Sounds like an excellent trip, Scottie. Very poignant, the inscription- it cries out with the grief of a family that has lost a loved one.
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Re: Fallen on the Somme; The War Diary of 2nd Lt Harold Hard

Postby kerchi » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:32 pm

Hey Scottie, sounds like you had a bit of luck on your side with regards to the decent weather. I don't mind the cold so much but everything always seems so much better when the sun makes an appearance and brightens the day! 8)Thanks for the piccies, I will add them to Linzell's wiki page today.Posting B&B details is perfectly okay, they would probably appreciate the word being spread, especially if you liked it so much. It certainly sounded welcoming. As for the route and potentially dangerous finds, I can honestly, with everything falling into place, this little trip sounds like a gem and most successful.
You mentioned earlier the cost of a trip, well if you plan well and have access to a car (Not sure that you have?) it works out quite reasonably
One of the reasons why we looked at tours was because we don't drive and so hiring a car, for instance, isn't really an option for us. This kind of puts a rather large spanner in the works and is probably one of the reasons why I keep delaying the Somme trip. The prices you mention are great, very reasonable indeed, but for us it would cost considerably more and unfortunately our friends don't share the same enthusiasm for visiting battlefields as we do :(I think I would like to spend a minimum of 3 days there with the option of upping it to 5 maybe if we'd like to see some other 'stuff'. We'll still think about our options. A meet up there with you would be something to consider in the not too distant future though.
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Re: Fallen on the Somme; The War Diary of 2nd Lt Harold Hard

Postby CockneyTone » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:51 am

Spike,Possibly one of the saddest inscriptions I have seen!Chris,Would love to meet up with you over there with you sometime and follow the footsteps of the Border boys! I do like my 'crafty overnighters' as i call them but agree that with your interest in the subject a longer stay would be preferable for you!The B & B is called OTAGO View and can be found at www.fieldsoffrance.com and is run by Peter & Hilary Smith, Peter is an excellent Guide and a fellow member of the Guild of Battlefield Guides! Please see below a picture of a 'little find' we tripped over near the NZ Memorial! (Yours truly on the left!)Regards,
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Re: Fallen on the Somme; The War Diary of 2nd Lt Harold Hard

Postby kerchi » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:05 pm

Crikey, that is one heck of a relic :o The dudd, NOT you of course, just in case you were wondering!!!I know that a lot of shells and bullets get found all the time but shells that big....how do you know it is safe to move? Looks complete! You've probably seen quite a collection on your travels.Regarding the B&B, which looks welcoming by the way, maybe you could start a new thread with recommendations of B&B's etc. you like; this would be useful for anyone researching places to stay. Just a suggestion.
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Re: Fallen on the Somme; The War Diary of 2nd Lt Harold Hard

Postby CockneyTone » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:01 am

Chris,as a general rule of thumb I don't touch them, my 'idiot mate' had stood this one up! it had obviously just been cleared from a newly ploughed field and was awaiting collection with about half a dozen smaller ones. We did have a laugh about it as they had just been left at the end of the local football pitch! Would not want to be taking the corners on that pitch!A couple of years ago I was at the Lochnager crater when an even larger shell had been unearthed, a French school teacher was sat astride it, surrounded by his school class and he was explaining its workings whilst tapping it with his whistle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We did see a lot of unexploded shells on this visit, approximately thirty plus! I am guessing that is because we were walking a bit off the beaten track on one of the less visited areas on the Somme. Many of them had obviously received a visit prior to us by a local as many of them had recently had their brass 'banding' removed from them! (A very dodgy hobby!)A good idea on the B & B, where should I start a thread? (The Lounge?)Regards,
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Re: Fallen on the Somme; The War Diary of 2nd Lt Harold Hard

Postby kerchi » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:11 pm

A couple of years ago I was at the Lochnager crater when an even larger shell had been unearthed, a French school teacher was sat astride it, surrounded by his school class and he was explaining its workings whilst tapping it with his whistle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:o :o :oI can't believe that!! That's crazy-mad-fool behaviour, especially with all those kids and not knowing if it was safe. I guess if he knew it was safe that would be fine but I would tend to agree with you, as much as I would like a souvenir (of sorts) such as a bullet casing or something, I certainly wouldn't touch them.Regarding the B&B thread, you could start it in 'the lounge' or maybe in the 'Media & Information' board. I could create a child board there called 'Battlefield Accommodation' or something of the like. Could even add it to the 'Western Front' board. What do you think?Chris
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Postby CockneyTone » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:14 pm

Chris,

perhaps a Battlefield Accommodation in the western Front area might be the place to put one? Let me know where you would prefer it and I will add a couple of places I would recommend!

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Re: Fallen on the Somme; The War Diary of 2nd Lt Harold Hard

Postby kerchi » Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:04 am

Scottie, That's sounds good to me; I'll create a child board in the Western Front and then individual threads can be started for different accommodation. If they have websites, links can be added and if there are any images available, or if you have any yourself, that would be a bonus so people can see what the places look like.Getting back to Linzell's diary, I think I am going to have another read of it myself on my lunch breaks at work....it's nice to pass the time with something interesting to read.Chris
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