PRIVATE R. BROWN . service No 3064

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PRIVATE R. BROWN . service No 3064

Postby plbramham » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:15 am

I wonder with your Boer War expertise if you can shed any light on this soldier?
PRIVATE R.BROWN . service No 3064
He was a Border Regiment Border War soldier who received the Kings South Africa Medal ( 1901-1902.) These were never awarded singly, always with the Queen South Africa Medal (1899-1900) so he may appear on either medal list.
I guess he was born 1870-1880, so may appear on census ( maybe at a military depot) 1871/1881/1891/1901, maybe even 1911. I’ve checked volunteer battalion numbers ( Colin Bardgett’s “The Black Angel” booklet) and they do no co-incide, so I guess he was a regular, 1st or 2nd Bn. BUT I’ve checked attestations 1890-1913, so maybe he joined before then? ( Quite possible if he joined in 1889 as an 18 year old he could have served in the Boer War as a private
Being a common name ( maybe even an “alias”) I know you do not have much chance!
Any help appreciated
Cheers Paul
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Re: PRIVATE R. BROWN . service No 3064

Postby plbramham » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:59 pm

Very many thanks to Ian T, who immediately responded with copies of Brown's medals roll lists for both the Queen's South Africa Medal, and the Kings South Africa Medal.
I was correct, he was a regular - 1st battalion.
He received the "normal" 1901 and 1902 claps on his KSA, but on the QSA he was entitled to claps for Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, Tugela Heights, and Relief of Ladysmith.
A good starting point for me! I wonder if he later served in WW1? ( In "middle age" maybe as a recruiting Sergeant or an NCO i/c training?)
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Re: PRIVATE R. BROWN . service No 3064

Postby IanT » Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:43 pm

Paul, I just did another quick search on Ancestry for 3064 R Brown Border Regiment and initially thought there was nothing. However..... there is in the pension records an entry for Robert Brown, service number 18401, attested for the Border Regiment in December 1914. The record states he had previously served in the Border Regt and his time had expired. Browsing through the pages I came across the info about this earlier service. He enlisted in Carlisle in January 1891, when he was 18, and his service number then was....3064! There are details of the earlier service. He was married with four children.
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Re: PRIVATE R. BROWN . service No 3064

Postby hussar1000 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:07 am

Findmypast is pretty good for Boer War era soldiers papers and I have found quite a few. I don't have a subscription but you can get a few days free trial sometimes so do check their website.
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Re: PRIVATE R. BROWN . service No 3064

Postby IanT » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:17 am

His service is also on findmypast, but among the WW1 records. He doesn't show up when searching just the Boer War because he re-enlisted in the regiment for WW1 and the service details have been carried forward.
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